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Post by Wallace on Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:51 pm

This motorcycle club series wears you out quickly after the first season. I cant imaging actually going through none other than three/four more seasons without being bored to death.

Clearly tailored to America's Latino, Redneck, black  tv-watching masses - even though the club admits no blacks.
Takes no genius to be one step ahead of the "plot".

Just as UK seems to be pushing out predominantly mystery/detective series, the US is concentrating on hyper Perils of Paul/Pauline-type ,constantly/repetatively,BORINGLY outta the frypan-into-the-fire  series. One of the earliest of these paytv HBO-types was that prison breakout series - I forget the name now.And its been steady-going since then.

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Answer me this: in the world of internet nude celebrity-makeovers (err...wotever you calls 'em), why is actress Katie Sagal the one that takes the most cartoon & cut n' paste dickings?
In the tv series Married With Children, I dont recall her ever being a dickslut and cheating on Al - she was just portrayed as a bad mother.So why all this concentration on the net with having her bent over in as many angles possible???

(Notice that for European fake-nude    photo-wotsitting, a fav target is Germany's Prime Minister, Merkle??  Strange that.)
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Post by Guest on Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:43 pm

Pompous Twat you, Wallace you.
I enjoy this series.
Why you have to try and appear intelligent, and write like a toffee nose beats me.

Anyway what the fuck do you know, if your taste in music is anything to go by, fuck all.

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Post by Wallace on Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:08 pm

No really. I was fastforwarding this  at least three times per episode.
Its not that its mindless violence - Walking Dead series holds my interest. Not this.
Sons  has this curious layering of action/violence with this soap opera-style lovey-dovey shit going on. (I guess they put all that opera in so that you cant say its a mindless action film with no character depth.)
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Post by Guest on Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:23 pm

Who's this Ana Chy ?
 We back to gooks agin ?

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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:12 am

Listen Wallace and listen good.
This series is actually very good.
The way the characters get sucked into doing all these evil deeds in the name of their Club.
Wallace the world if full of scum like this and this series is a look into the dynamics of these people.

They are criminals and psychopaths.
The main characters Girl friend is a doctor. You watch her descend into the depths of evil as she gets sucked into their web.

The Matriarch played by Katie Segal is pure unadulterated evil who will do anything to protect her idea of family.
It is a good look into the minds of pure white trash, for want of a better description..


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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:19 am

No shagging then ? 

 

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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:35 am

Lots of Shaging ffs they are a bike club.
On of their little businesses is making Porn and running Hookers.
The cunts have porn stars for girl friends.

You wish you wish, don't ya, don't ya.
  

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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:39 am

I aint seen it but its one of the best things I haven't seen ! cheers

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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:54 am

The main character is played by an English actor.
Charlie Hunnam.
Fucking Jordie, Newcastle ffs.

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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:49 am

You ever see 'Benidorm ' Brit comedy ?  Shocked

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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:33 am

No I have not is it worth looking into?

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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:40 am

Mad as fuck !
 Totally without merit .
Toilet humour .
yeah its fucking great tips lad ! 
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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:47 am

Will get the Niece on to it, her and her mates being the generation they are, are into this downloading shit.
Unfortunately I have limited internet access.

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Post by Wallace on Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:00 pm

B. J. Voster wrote:Listen Wallace and listen good.
This series is actually very good.
The way the characters get sucked into doing all these evil deeds in the name of their Club.
Wallace the world if full of scum like this and this series is a look into the dynamics of these people.

They are criminals and psychopaths.
The main characters Girl friend is a doctor. You watch her descend into the depths of evil as she gets sucked into their web.

The Matriarch played by Katie Segal is pure unadulterated evil who will do anything to protect her idea of family.
It is a good look into the minds of pure white trash, for want of a better description..

 
I certainly agree with all this but the only one getting sucked in is the doctor girlfriend (and Wayne), the others are evil from the start.
 
My bitch is that the series be glorifying evil. It makes you have empathy, cry for their losses,predicaments,etc. Makes you feel part of the Family however  dysfunctional  it be.
 
The first time Hollywood tried this out on the public bigtime was with the '67 film, The Collector. I remember the outcry (in my highschool) this film made. Ever since its been full steam ahead. Like Sagal's  mega-hit series, Married With Children, you are specifically being manipulated/softened  to  feel endeared to these basically evil people.  Russians have a word for this - spreading "bydlo". (Whole history - "Bydlo" is a part of Mussorgsky's 'Pictures At An Exhibition".)
 
Sagal's character is as you say intrinsically evil, but is this really stressed? I dont get the feeling of that. You are clearly being made to resonate to her actions. At one point she is attempting to hot-wire a car then the owner stumbles on in caught in the act and what does she do? Not  jump out the other car door and run away - she makes a direct knife-jab at the total stranger's dick. But you are made to rationalize this - hey! afterall she is a mother and is acting out of motherly love. Fucksake.
 
I already mentioned this, in series 2, the SAMCRO have got into prostitution, porn film industry  as well as guns and drugs. The population of Charming seems to adore them - this all is somehow good for the town - at least SAMCRO is upholding the old community ways and trying to keep land developers at bay. Its only in season 3 that, after the gangland machine-gunning of townsfolk & gang members attending the former member's funeral, that it is  shown that SOME of the Charming folk have turned  against the bikers.
 
Yet what does the series stress as being the main evil? Not the biker clans, not the Irish IRA but the sharp and polite RACIST, Szobel controlling everything.
 
Oh sorry - gotta correct myself. I now recall that that sharp arch-villian Szobel  was not particularly a racist himself, but was pulling the strings of racists to get his own agenda thru.
Still, all the same, series three was putting racism in as the main evil - not community cold-blooded murder, whore,drugs,gun-running.


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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:13 pm

Wallace you have summed this series up absolutely correctly.
These folk are scum they are psychopaths, pure unadulterated trash.

The sad part about it all is that people admire folk like this scum.
I find it entertaining because I actually know people like them.

Not something I understand or approve of, but people like this do exist.
I do not think there is a lesson in this series or that the producers and writer are making a point they are just making a statement.
Look folks here they are they live amongst you. You admire them and their biker creed, but look at what a bunch of ultimate pathetic losers they all are.


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Post by Wallace on Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:46 pm

You dont know that they are being made out as ultimate losers by the makers of this series.
 
This series has likely not ended yet but going into yet another season.
 
You cant say what the producers/writers intentions are till you see how it all ends.
It might end on the same tone The Collector did.
 
 
 
I ask you, how did Breaking Bad end? - Walter's righthand man, a real piece of shit, gets off scott free with us even having to feel sorry for him.
 
Walter himself basically dies in glory.



How did Dexter end? (I dont know - never watched the last season.)
There is another killer we are supposed to feel affinity towards.
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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:24 pm

Oh for crying out loud Wallace it is only TV.

Do you honestly expect the masses to take any moral message from anything.

Who the hell cares what the motive behind these things are, if there are any, apart from making money.

Holy shit you might as well shut down the whole Entertainment industry, cause it all sends the wrong message.

I do not give a flying Fig straight out of a Bats ass what message they are trying to get across it is entertainment for crying out loud.

Bad it might be immoral it always is that is the way it is and the way it will always be.

Unless of course you are advocating censorship.
To protect society from its self that always works out well not so.

But I see and get your point, and agree with your conclusions, but I do not loose sleep over it.

Reality Shows now there is a thing you should be concerned about.

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Post by zako on Fri Feb 21, 2014 11:23 pm

YES PEOPLE LIKE THEM REMIND ME OF MY EARLY YOUTH,,,,FAST AND BLOODTHIRSTY...LIKE THE VALENTINE MASSACER IN CHICAGO...DURING THE CAPONE ERA....
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Post by Wallace on Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:59 pm

B. J. Voster wrote:Oh for crying out loud Wallace it is only TV.

Do you honestly expect the masses to take any moral message from anything.

Who the hell cares what the motive behind these things are, if there are any, apart from making money.

Holy shit you might as well shut down the whole Entertainment industry, cause it all sends the wrong message.

I do not give a flying Fig straight out of a Bats ass what message they are trying to get across it is entertainment for crying out loud.

This is where you are dead wrong, sunshine.

TV is a prime brainwashing device. One of the very most potent in the arsenal of manipulating sheep-mentalities.

This was part of the message of one of Canada's icons, Marshall McLuhan. The "global village" where everything is immediate and linked through electronic communication.

Its never "only TV". Get that straight.

Countless TV like Sons is out to belittle the value of human life and dignity. Using stupid soap opera templates - which Sons basically follows: the mother is  gang raped, next (within the same season) the baby is kidnapped and the wife after that kidnapped by yet another force. Its all-no-brainer plot. The plot doesnt matter to them - its the wash that matters :de-sensitize people to evil.


When the motorcyclists leave the compound on for the road the music is always some tough-ape, blaring, stupid Ninja-shirt-juvenile ,posing,  pack-mentality metal-chicano rap rubbish. But then in the clubhouse the baby is going from one set of joyful caring  hands (who just recently cold-bloodedly murdered folk) to another, patting on the back, wishing each "brother" well, the bevy of whores of a sudden are painted as saints and the music has BECOME SOFT CHEERY POP. Dont tell me manipulation is not in the cards hear.

Lap it up Jimmeh, enjoy  and pretend it is nothing and you are not being used.
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Post by Guest on Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:28 pm

Wallace calm down ffs what yer gonna do about it then.

Move to fucking North Korea if it upsets you so much then, why don't ya.

Anyway that Prog Shit you listen too has done more damage to peoples brains than any TV show.

Just take Pony for example his brain is fucked.


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Post by Wallace on Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:34 am

Pony, pony.
 
 
"The media is the message"


Guess who said that.
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Post by Guest on Sun Feb 23, 2014 1:44 am

Lord  haw haw  ?   cheers

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Post by Wallace on Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:58 am

Tippo: since you bring prog into this, I shall exercise the same right.

"Marshall McLuhan,
 casual viewing,
 head buried in the sand." - Genesis  from "Lamb Lies Down On Broadway"


So you see, its not just casual.
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